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forbidden bugs/illegal actions
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9.5. Exploit and bug using wrote: Any form of bug using that may affect the general gameplay is forbidden and will be punished with 1 to 6 penalty points according to severity.Below you can find an (incomplete) list with some examples, what counts as bugs/exploits: - Dark Carnival 1: It is forbidden to skip the bridge area by jumping on the crashed truck as it breaks Tank spawns. - Dark Carnival 3: It is forbidden to pass half of the rollercoaster event by jumping on the nearby fence. - Dead Center 1: It is forbidden to skip any part of the map by using a shortcut by jumping downstairs via window or balcony. - Hard Rain 2 & 3: It is forbidden to spit on top, inside or underneath the elevator as long as it is moving and the doors are closed. - Hard Rain 3: It is forbidden to walk on the roof on the right side at the beginning of the map. - Swamp Fever 2: It is forbidden to pass the airplane without triggering the crescendo. - Swamp Fever 3: It is forbidden to pass the crescendo event by jumping on the rocks nearby. - Swamp Fever 4: It is forbidden to sit at the top of the stairs as survivor to prevent tank spawns during finale. - Preventing the opposing team (be it survivor or infected) to climb a ladder by staying on top of it. - Finale Maps: To loose control of the 2nd tank to the AI during the finale event. - As survivors, to rush through most of the mapduring a panic event toavoid normal infected spawning. Survivors haveto wait near the panicevent trigger location. (e.g. The Airplain onSwamp Fever 2) 9.5.1. Allowed actions wrote: The following list shows actions that are not forbidden:- All positions reachable with a hunter or any other infected are allowed. - Forbidden positions for survivors will be listed explicit. Anything NOT listed is allowed. - It is allowed to spawn anytime as infected, also on final maps. - Fast ladder climbing is allowed. 9.5.2. Forbidden actions during tank fight wrote: - No matter if the tank spawns while the survivors are inside the saferoom or if the tank spawns after the survivors have left the saferoom, it is forbidden to camp inside the saferoom. Once the match started the survivor team must leave the saferoom under any circumstance. However, it is allowed that the survivors resupply ammunition, which means they can individually (one by one) enter the saferoom, swiftly grab some ammo and leave the saferoom immediately again. Ofcourse it is NOT forbidden for a survivor to stand in the doorway and block infected spawn.Last Update: 19.05.2010 To clarify: These lists only contain issues that offer a certain need of discussion or are not clear. Obvious bugs are generally forbidden of course (therefor this list is not exhaustive). Here you can find the Left 4 Dead 2 Specific Rules. [ quote ]
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+1 for fast ladder climbing  Everyone uses it anyway.[ quote ]
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| L4D2 update: Spitter spit that damages players on a moving elevator will now fizzle quickly [ quote ]
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| added 13.12.2009: - Swamp Fever 4: It is forbidden to sit at the top of the stairs as survivor to prevent tank spawns during finale. [ quote ]
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| Is it allowed to suicide as unspawned Inf (e.g. on parish 1 -> jump in the water) before both teams are rdy? edit: I think we should add ladderblocking by special Infected to illegal actions. -- «Arschwasser hat enormes Suchtpotential.» [ quote ]
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| quote[h3r0][Is it allowed to suicide as unspawned Inf (e.g. on parish 1 -> jump in the water) before both teams are rdy? same answer as in german section: no, infected only are allowed to get in position unspawned. Anything else before both teams wrote ready and the survivors left the saferoom is forbidden. [ quote ]
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Felerian01 wrote: added 13.12.2009:- Swamp Fever 4: It is forbidden to sit at the top of the stairs as survivor to prevent tank spawns during finale. Massive +1 [ quote ]
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Felerian01 wrote: added 13.12.2009:- Swamp Fever 4: It is forbidden to sit at the top of the stairs as survivor to prevent tank spawns during finale. Is this what causes it? We've camped there a couple of times simply because it is the best place to camp by far and still had tanks, but if it can cause this bug I guess we'd have to stop that. Thanks for the info. [ quote ]
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| Which place are we talking about exactly in Swamp Fever 4? I'm not sure I completely follow. Can someone take a screenshot? [ quote ]
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| http://i50.tinypic.com/2v0btsj.jpg [ quote ]
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| added 19.12.2009: - Preventing the opposing team (be it survivor or infected) to climb a ladder by staying on top of it. [ quote ]
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| is it allowd to change your hud ? like this http://image.fpsbanana.com/ss/guis/21833a.jpg [ quote ]
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| I think it is stated clear enough that any of these changes are forbidden. The only changes that are allowed are changed made in the ingame menu and glow changes, see the rules for details. [ quote ]
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| Felerian, you should consider the position on HUDs as you did before with glows. If I remember correctly admins were very adamant about custom glows being not allowed, but because everyone whined so much they are now allowed. And with good reason, since the default glows are pretty bad and everyone is free to tailor them to suite their own personal taste. I think the same applies to HUDs. They give you no real advantage, it's just a matter of taste and preference. Some people will prefer the old classic L4D1-style HUD while I know a lot of people who like the new one. No one will shoot more accurately or have a tactical advantage over the opposing team because of this. PS. The situation is exactly the same as with glows before, because I'm sure quite a few people here have been using custom HUDs for some time now and most, if not all, will be pretty shocked to find out that they are not allowed. Me included. So I ask the ESL admins to consider this matter and others to voice their opinion. Have a nice day and happy end of the year! [ quote ]
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OhYeah wrote: PS. The situation is exactly the same as with glows before, because I'm sure quite a few people here have been using custom HUDs for some time now and most, if not all, will be pretty shocked to find out that they are not allowed. Me included. Actually, that's the point why we have been so strict about not allowing the glows - once you start on this, there are more and more things that people want to change. We will draw a very clear line in L4D2 and make sure that nobody crosses this line anymore. [ quote ]
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| Yeah, but don't forget to listen to the players. That's why we're all here - to have fun. Allowing us to customize our games a little to suite our personal taste is not something that should be hindered. Banning custom HUDs will not make much sense to most players I'm afraid. At least to those whom I know. [ quote ]
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| Allow custom hud plz [ quote ]
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| forbid any carnival rollercoaster shortcut/bypass plz (there are alot!) [ quote ]
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| binge, what shortcuts are you talking about? [ quote ]
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| There are so many shortcuts on the coaster. The main one is jumping on the first fence to skip going up and round. You can get their so fast that you can actually get ran over by the train (which happens to me every time I try it in a pub FFFFFFFFF) Also on custom huds, they are good and I have to say I do use one. The only problem is that they edit a key file which can also be used for particle hacks etc. Jerkstore even said he found out quite a lot when he was making the hud from particle hacks. However, there is a rather tedious way of making custom huds without editing this file which tbh should be allowed. I made a guide to making one here. http://l4dnao.com/index.php?site=forum_topic&topic=186 [ quote ]
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| added 11.01.2010: - Swamp Fever 2: It is forbidden to pass the airplane without triggering the crescendo. - Swamp Fever 3: It is forbidden to pass the crescendo event by jumping on the rocks nearby. Additionally i want to end the previous discussion with this: Modifying Gamefiles is forbidden, therefore custom GUI´s & HUD´s are forbidden and punished with up to 6 penalty points. (added to the rules, see 9.3. Client Settings) [ quote ]
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| Why can't you guys add a simple exception for the HUDs? They do absolutely no harm in any way. [ quote ]
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OhYeah wrote: Why can't you guys add a simple exception for the HUDs? They do absolutely no harm in any way.or make a esl hud or something ? [ quote ]
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| That was the aim of the minimumHUD but they just disbarred it. [ quote ]
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| There is a slight shortcut in the first level of Dark Carnival not that long after the start, is that allowed? Might also add not to spam the glitch with the pistols that results in more pistols being created. [ quote ]
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