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Nations Championship - Laginspect is mandatory
We want the best for this Championship, and like has been done in this kind of competitions, the Laginspect will be mandatory for all matches of Country Championship. Please, be present this important rule. We will not tolerate the missing of LIL file.

Laginspect is mandatory


Remembering the rule



ESL WIRE PORTAL



ESL-Wire and Lag-Inspect

You have to install the newest version of ESL-Wire. You can find it on the link above. Lag-Inspect is integrated in ESL-Wire. Lag-Inspect is a tool which checks your internet-connection during your FIFA12-Matches. You have to run Lag-Inspect in all your FIFA12 ESL-Matches and don't close it during the matches. You have to let Lag-Inspect on in a 2-Matches game and in Best-of-3 games. You have not to restart Lag-Inspect after every game. Rules for Lag-Inspect You are forced to run Lag-Inspect in all games. You need to upload your laginspect after the matches.

If your Lag-Inspect file is missing, you can get 3 penalty points and an admin can decide to delete the match in a cup you will get a default loss.

Protest Guidelines for Lag-Inspect

If you want to create a protest with checking the Lag-Inspect files, you have to do it within 1 hour after Match ending. You have to enter the real-times (like 14:32 for example) in which you got lags. The Lag-Inspect files have to be uploaded from the players within 24 hours after Match ending in the Matchdetails and admins should be able to download these files. The Lag-Inspect files are only allowed to get uploaded in the Matchdetails. It is not allowed to upload them on internet-hosters for example.

Crashes and bugs of ESL-Wire or Lag-Inspect

If your ESL-Wire or Lag-Inspect get an error and crashed during the game, you have to take screenshots and upload it in the protest and Matchdetails.

Keep Lag-Inspect files on your PC

You are forced to keep all Lag-Inspect files on your computer within 24 hours. An admin is always allowed to ask the player for an Lag-Inspect files of the last 24 hours. So keep this files these 24 hours.



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Shevjke, Monday, 30/04/12 16:01
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This is the worst and mindless rule that you could ever make in this competition. You will have tons of protests after the matches because the looser team wants to use the chance that the oponnent team has missing file-s. This program is NOT watching the LAGG. Only the running programs.

You can close every program, if you have bad connection it WONT fix it. On the other side, ifyou have great connection a running MSN for example is not influence anything.

So think about, what is the sense of this?...Same mistakes every year...
Gabu wrote:
This is the worst and mindless rule that you could ever make in this competition. You will have tons of protests after the matches because the looser team wants to use the chance that the oponnent team has missing file-s. This program is NOT watching the LAGG. Only the running programs.

You can close every program, if you have bad connection it WONT fix it. On the other side, ifyou have great connection a running MSN for example is not influence anything.

So think about, what is the sense of this?...Same mistakes every year...


If you have a bad connection, but you don't use programs, of course that we can understand it. Anyway, if you have a bad connection and some programs who uses your connection were running during the game...it will influence your bandwitch. So, we want it so clear as possible. In the past it ran like this, and we will keep it.

We know that some guys doesn't like the laginspect. Anyway, it can help the admin in other cases like "quitters"!

So, it seems to be a very good rule, not only to check bandwitch, but so check other problems.
It would be fine if laginspect files were created for 100% after every match. Now, often no file will be created at the end of the match. As Gabu said if you have bad conn nothing will help. Luckily most players have decent conn.
It's not good, because the laginspect doesnt start every time, etc.. In EMS 1on1 couldn't use it, and became deleted rule!
As Shevjke said

Shevjke wrote:

We know that some guys doesn't like the laginspect. Anyway, it can help the admin in other cases like "quitters"!

So, it seems to be a very good rule, not only to check bandwitch, but so check other problems.


I think this is a good idea to detect quitters. Anyway we'll see how it happened but we only use it for CC and not for ladders or others competitions.
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you are kidding right
omg.... :P 99% of the players have a nice conn atm.

and I agree with Czzech!! :: It would be fine if laginspect files were created for 100% after every match. Now, often no file will be created at the end of the match.
lets vote guys?

all teams capitans can vote with wire or without...
This is complete nonsense.... Everybody knows that Laginspect is a big FAIL and it does NOT!! work proper like it should.... File's missing, Date And time Incorrect because of different time zones, programs and alot more......... If you use it to detect quitters, ok! But use it for other things is a big no no because it wil fail anyway.... Look at EMS... This is ENC, i doubt that there will be alot of laggers and cheaters in this tournament anyway. Lag will be there anyway, even tho if admins check the file and they dont see anything in the file...
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Definitely agree with Sike and Ikandro. We as Captains should be allowed to vote on this matter. I would use Laginspect IF it worked 100%. We are playing amongst good player who mostly have a good connection. Laginspect doesn't help reduce lagg it merely monitors programs used. Anyone who knows they have a weak connection turns off all programs anyway. Also some laggers are laggers due to low PC specs so therefore LI is useless.

Also this will also cause uneccessary protests, as when teams loose they will say that the other teams are laggers and demand LI to be checked....

To recap, there should be a vote by the captains.
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my all team players dont know what is the wire ) and its will be very obscure ...

lets vote its will be productive.
+1 for CZZZECH
I'm team captain of the Netherlands.

My Vote: Don't use ESL wire

I definitely agree with my teammate Sike!!
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no laginspect man omg
I'm team captain of Georgia.

My Vote: Don't use ESL wire

:)
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ESL Wire will not be used only to detect lag but also for quitters guys.
For us it's easy to see who quits or not.

We will take a decision with Shevjke but I think LagInspect is a good tool for admin. We will maybe see what we could do with protest who could be opened or not by opponent.
gj to put laginspect

#11 if you are captain teach them seriously, esl wire all need to have it to play on ESL so please don't seek excuses to not use esl wire and LI. I CAN see that only laggers are crying about it, georgia all know that ur con and pc suck, and czech republique are jokes about it, and laginspect can control one more thing, if players don't trade accounts to play against guys who want .
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ESL admins, let the team captains vote to have laginspect or not.
Shevjke wrote:
Gabu wrote:
This is the worst and mindless rule that you could ever make in this competition. You will have tons of protests after the matches because the looser team wants to use the chance that the oponnent team has missing file-s. This program is NOT watching the LAGG. Only the running programs.

You can close every program, if you have bad connection it WONT fix it. On the other side, ifyou have great connection a running MSN for example is not influence anything.

So think about, what is the sense of this?...Same mistakes every year...


If you have a bad connection, but you don't use programs, of course that we can understand it. Anyway, if you have a bad connection and some programs who uses your connection were running during the game...it will influence your bandwitch. So, we want it so clear as possible. In the past it ran like this, and we will keep it.

We know that some guys doesn't like the laginspect. Anyway, it can help the admin in other cases like "quitters"!

So, it seems to be a very good rule, not only to check bandwitch, but so check other problems.


may be you're a little right but its not %100 i experianced last year this stupid software and everyone(bad player or good player i dont care everyone want to use this stupid chance.. if CONNECT BE CLEAR STILL GONNA BE PROTEST(LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG BLAAAAAA BLAAA BLAAA) in esl a few good person and too much bad person.. also you said ems too this rules but even been a admin czasi too dont care this. so last word; no prizes tournaments just be fun and only given premium, why we must use this stupid shit? turtle ltd. want this, right?

esl gonna be worst before years, i dont know why..
FreeStylerzZz wrote:
gj to put laginspect

#11 if you are captain teach them seriously, esl wire all need to have it to play on ESL so please don't seek excuses to not use esl wire and LI. I CAN see that only laggers are crying about it, georgia all know that ur con and pc suck, and czech republique are jokes about it, and laginspect can control one more thing, if players don't trade accounts to play against guys who want .


I can see you are still upset with your loss against CZ, but to assume that all players are against is just downright stupid. Regarding account trading it's simple, all players play at the same time. And about quiting just looking back at our friendly French players like to quit :) I think it's fair to have a vote on it.
for exemple your kubel who lose 7-0 and play second match when all have finished

+1 for ladinspect
I explained to you why that happened don't waste space here.
Kalimerre, you never used ESL wire! It doesnt work every time! +1 for CZZZECH
Countries who don't want to use ESL Wire:
The Netherlands
Hungary
Belgium
Czech republic
Turkey
Georgia
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Italy??

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Who wants:
France
#24 Actually FreestylerzZz say his opinion.
He doesn't represent France. The team captain is Yann.
When i speak, i speak as Admin and not Team Owner of France :).
By the way, the cup starts Sunday and there aren't the groups yet.
Group will be drawn tonight.

:)
with wire or with out?
pls decide )
At the moment we didn't say that we remove Wire. So with wire.
very bad.
Ikandro wrote:
very bad.
everyone will be say; "do you have laginspect? It was laggy game, we gonna protest"

Guys you're decide 1 match on 3891312321 day and every admin think different decide how can you interesting so many kid protest?
This is Ridiculous FOR REAL!! First of all there arent alot of admins at the moment (Protests takes dayssss before they are done by a admin) and this will only give you more work which you cant handle atm... People will protest just because they HOPE that his opponent has some kind of "Illegal" program running in the background of his LI file, and not because they actually had lag. This is weak, and should not be tolerated by ESL.... I was a ESL admin for a long time and read ALOT of LI files, and came to the conclusion after a while that ESL Wire has alot of flaws and errors... YES it finally worked after a while with a few other ways to make it work, but so far its still not a great program and should not be used because its useless... The only thing it would actually help the admins with, is to see if someone quit the game, nothing else...

Im not saying that ESL Wire is a complete wreck and that its a bullshit program, but untill the program does not work 100% Its crazy to implent it to such a big tournament.....

So untill ESL Wire Laginspect only works for 40%, id say that its a big NO NO!

Great program, but it doesn work like it should...
What about making some kind of "limit" to ask the laginspect. You're not gonna tell me that in a 5vs5 war, every game was laggy. Perhaps you should create a rule that only allows the protesting team to ask for 2 or 3 laginspect files.

This is not just about the "illegal" programs they may be running in the background, but about the possible "faking" that occurs in this type of competition, with some players playing in other player's account. That's an important fact.

I agree with some of the guys saying laginspect it's not 100% reliable, but we have to work with what we have, and im sure its a necessary program to this competition.

By the way, Good Luck and Have Fun!
Tevezzz wrote:
What about making some kind of "limit" to ask the laginspect. You're not gonna tell me that in a 5vs5 war, every game was laggy. Perhaps you should create a rule that only allows the protesting team to ask for 2 or 3 laginspect files.

This is not just about the "illegal" programs they may be running in the background, but about the possible "faking" that occurs in this type of competition, with some players playing in other player's account. That's an important fact.

I agree with some of the guys saying laginspect it's not 100% reliable, but we have to work with what we have, and im sure its a necessary program to this competition.

By the way, Good Luck and Have Fun!


We're thinking about that.
Tevezzz is on to something =)
Based on what Tevezzz suggested I would add...
A limit per stage, example:
In group stage a team plays 15 games 1on1, so I would say 5 laginspect files to be used.
In KO stage something similar....

This would probably make things more interesting because a team would have to manage their calls. I see a boost in strategy in this scenario =)
Trigun wrote:
Tevezzz is on to something =)
Based on what Tevezzz suggested I would add...
A limit per stage, example:
In group stage a team plays 15 games 1on1, so I would say 5 laginspect files to be used.
In KO stage something similar....

This would probably make things more interesting because a team would have to manage their calls. I see a boost in strategy in this scenario =)


Well if we have to use LI then this rule should be applied, to stop players from abusing the LI files to try and get a win if they loose.
 
 
 
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