Rule Improving & Important Informations
We know, that some players still don't accepting the new BO3 system. Now we heared something about a teamspeak meeting, that should run tomorrow evening. As far as we know, the community want to make a decision for the ESL ladders. It would be helpful, if you would read the informations at the bottom of this news.

Rule Improving

We got a ot of feedback and of course we looked at this feedback in detail. Following things have been changed / will be changed:

BO3 Improvement
We got some feedback, that the way like matches are counted, is a little bit strange. So a 2:0 will be counted as a full win / full loss, but a 2:1 will be counted in the same way. In fact this is a little bit unfair and so we changed it. Now a 2:0 will be countd as a 100% win / loss, but a 2:1 won't be countd as 100% anymore. So a 2:1 won't give you as much points as a 2:0. The old matches have been recalculated, so that everything should be correct now. If there is a problem in one of your old matches, please write a ticket.

Mappool Improvement
The mappols will be changed in a big way. First we splitted the mappool in every ladder into 2 mappools.

1.) general mappool
2.) 3rd map mappool

So we will be able to create a general mappool for the 1st and 2nd map and another special mappool only for the 3rd map choice. In this way we can improve the mappools in a better way.

All in all every mappool will be changed. We are discussing the new mappools in the player council.

Rule Improvement
In the player council we are discussing a few rule changes to improve the rules. These changes will be announced as far as the discussion has been finished. But you can be sure, that the admins + player council are working to improve the rules and expecially the server settings.


Ladder Activity

Since 3 days the new ladders are open and the first matches have been played. Now we can take a first look at the activity after the ladder restart.

1on1 Ladder
played matches:   25
matches per day: 8,3
contestants: 84
2on2 Ladder
played matches:   8
matches per day: 2,7
contestants: 40


5on5+ Ladder
played matches:   1
matches per day: 0,0
contestants: 19
CTF 3on3+ Ladder
played matches:   8
matches per day: 2,7
contestants: 28

If you are looking at the matches per day statistic there are new statistic records in the 1on1, 2on2 and ctf 3on3+ ladder. Great work, guys! We are curious if you can continue these statistics or if you maybe can beat it.


New Years Cup - Never ending Story

First we want to say "sorry". In fact the NYC wasn't as successful as we thought it would be.

We just wanted to support this cup, because it was a popular cup in the last years. But because it was a traditional "community cup" we wanted to play it without strict ESL rules like default wins and so on. We just tried to let you play this cup your way.

In fact this was a fault. Three weeks after the planned end of this cup only the group stage is finished. Tomorrow at 31th january the finale cup will start and now we will start to give default wins like in any ESL cup.

The official timeline for the final cup of the NYC can bee seen in the following list.


The final cup will start on 1st february. Each round is scheduled to be played during three days. So the first round will start at 01.02., the second round will start at 04.02. and the final round will start at 07.02.

If a match hasn't been finished after this "deadline" the admins will give def wins.

SWBF2   New Years Cup - Finale Cup
  Round  Start  End
  Round 1  01.02.  04.02.
  Round 2  04.02.  07.02.
  Finale  07.02.  10.02.



Community Teamspeak Meeting

As written at the top of this news, we heared about a teamspeak meeting, that should run tomorrow evening. As far as we know, the community want to make a decision for the ESL ladders. So we just want to give you some informations:

We created the player council to work together with the community. So it would be helpful if you would just use the player council to make proposals for rules changes and so on. In fact we are already working on some rule changes together with the player council.

This community meeting won't be an official ESL meeting, so we won't accept the decisions of this meeting. It's unimportant, what you will decide in this meeting, we won't change it.

Just use the player council and tell the council player of your clan, what proposals he should write into the player council board. Than we will discuss about it. This way will work. The TS meeting will be ignored. Maybe this sounds hard, but we want to work with the player council, so this meeting would be very counterproductive.

And the most important information:

If you are talking about the BO3 system, please notice, that we won't change it. Even if 100% of the community want to change it or even if "all" players will leave the SWBF2 ladders, the BO3 system won't be changed.

We are open for mappool changes and rules changes through the player council, but the BO3 system won't be changed. Please just accept it.



Your Admin Team
ReeN, Saturday, 30/01/10 20:11
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I dont know, why u just say: BAM - here is the BO3 System. There was no information of changing the system before. There are no reasons, why the ESL want to change the system!

Its just like: Now we will play with BO3 - ready! WITHOUT ANY EXPLANATIONS ?!?
BO3 is the worst shit ever! In other games it may be ok and useful, but in SWBF2 it just stimulates campers.
There is no point of BO3 in swbf2 , the old system was fine and theres no point in annoucing the meeting will do nothing when we know that , because your basically saying 'LOL this is our choice and not yours plz get over this'
I like the way you apologize for messing up the NYC then go on to say "We just tried to let you play this cup your way" You never let the community have it "there way" but when you do try and ofc fail at doing so you shift the blame to us? Its just pathetic.

There would be need to discuss the map pool if the stupid Bo3 system was here. Nobody likes it. Elo was fine , the BO3 just wrecks it and makes half the rounds pointless to play. Is the BO3 used in any other ESL ladder were there is tickets?

First the BO3 then Eddies fcking Italia ( worst map ever btw with no thought put into it)
What are you trying to turn SWBF2 into? Its an old game and no one buys it anymore. Its just the same people always who play it and we like it the way it is. Trying to make it more professional Esports? Have you played this game? No is so disillusioned to think this game is pro so theres no need to try and add all these "flash new systems"
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i don't know which guys are exactly in the "great" esl player council but i think nobody of phace it
i ask you this days with an email for invitation in this council it is a little bit later as the news to this topic but in the last weeks i had much work for school etc.
so admins can you tell me all members!
because i want to dicuss over this whole thing too
and thats the fact why i tomorrow go to the meeting i hope it will be a big sucess
mhh and if really all teams should leave the ladder you have no other choice as think about to change the bo3 system
because then in 5on5 ladder exact two teams are left
7lives alpha and beta; every day one Match against each other^^
have fun =D
but this is not the Point why we make a meeting
we only want to come together talk to each other with tea and cake ;)
and hear the opinion of most of the swbf2 players what they say to the new inovations of the esl
don't know why this should be wrong :P
Funny, for someone who doesn't care at all about the community, and what people think and want, you sure spend alot of time obsessing about a potential meeting. There's only so long people will put up with the admins totalitarian ways.

I've asked this before and I'll ask again. Who's in this council?
..or is that to much information for the "stupid community" to handle according to you..
All You guys are invited to our Teamspeak² meeting today 19.00. Just join Aquila Gaming teamspeak server and present your point of view.

@admins

As i told u, i know u havent to change anything what we want to, but in our dreams there is a community and a cooperative esl. We just talk together with cake and tea, as unleashed told.
failing game, failing admins... just rofl.
btw were are all that players clans and the crowd loving that system?
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I think it's an official list, so it will be stupid to kick/ban me from the PC-Board because I gave the Community this Information. (wrotten english? xD)

Following Players are People with access to the Player Council Board:

Aquila Gaming -> WaarFighter

eCRYPT -> Pe4nor

Forever Reborn -> Sal

L'Alliance -> Ben Kenobi

Neo-Crusader -> Scrunk

Team PerpleX -> Destroyer

the Army of Darkness -> Cruel

The Kamino Freaks -> Ghost

The Unknown Warriors -> TiLz

xTreme.Spirits -> Hino Rei WuR3X

Winner-Clan -> schnuffi // Quasso
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so nobody from phace it in the player council

nice maps precision would be nice to have more mod maps
perhaps 5
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tuuut tuuut, swbf2 is going down like titantic.
But maybe phace it don't want to be in the Player Council. We can't force somebody from phace it to be in there.
Ancient Research Facility was/is one of the best modmaps.
If any mod map should be added it's that one :D
"Than we will discuss about it. This way will work"
-but
"If you are talking about the BO3 system, please notice, that we won't change it. Even if 100% of the community want to change it or even if "all" players will leave the SWBF2 ladders, the BO3 system won't be changed."

-why? so why did you initiate the system?
"The BO3 system will be the second step to give you a better ladder"
pls explain "better" i just can follow the arguments as they are written above (bo3 fits rather strange to ticket systems )dont want to repeat everything.. just want to know if you can explain that or if its just a mistake that you dont want to admit? to be honest the system is not that bad but your reaction on the critcs are..

"This community meeting won't be an official ESL meeting, so we won't accept the decisions of this meeting" you dont have to xD this is a meeting of the community to discuss everything.. it doesnt matter if its official or not.. no one cares its just about the opinions and to come together with pros and cons maybe..

"so this meeting would be very counterproductive" it would be more prductive than any council could ever be because theres everybodys opinion formed to one by discussing.. maybe it is possible to fget a entire statement of the community..
you can ignore that..
... or you can do your job as swbf2 admin and do, what is the best for the community...nevermind what this is, the community will tell you :)
nc
@cruel: i am in phace it and i like to join the council xD
but i get no answer on my email

from tew is also nobody in the council
and dont fget neighbourhood:)
I also agree on the statement of WM! Don´t think this system is as bad as many people want it to be, but also don´t really like and understand the admin´s reaction on this meeting...
But in general, i think i´ll like these changes because it´s something new for us all...

And OHHNOEZ: I don´t understand why you still take every chance for flaming the SWBF2 community!
Please stop that, dunno what you´re expecting...
Thanks to the girl that had the idea of the player council.
Thanks to the adminstaff that does not really make use of this idea and still decides nearly everything alone.

@ Fuzzelo: Tiiilol did not insult the community, he indirectly insulted the admins.

PS: B03 is still unnecessary in SWBF2. Thank you! =)
Gamergirl wrote:
Thanks to the girl that had the idea of the player council. Thanks to the adminstaff that does not really make use of this idea and still decides nearly everything alone.


finally gamergirl decided to tell the truth. thank you so much my old friend, i really miss you.

why the new years cup went bad?

because you guys do not have any clue about what is important in SWBF2 if you start cups like that one
because you changed the meaning of the cup - it was not a fucking normal cup. it was a possibilty to get the clans come closer together and to play one or two days peacefully.
The most important thing was the sense for community and the togetherness.
you absolutly destroyed that because of your power-based behaviour and your control freaks in your adminteam. that was the good of the old adminteam.

freedom, there was a battlefront2 outside the esl!

further to that topic:

Reen wrote:
If you are talking about the BO3 system, please notice, that we won't change it. Even if 100% of the community want to change it or even if "all" players will leave the SWBF2 ladders, the BO3 system won't be changed.


to say it in Star Wars manner:
you guys are talking like Jacen Solo also called Darth Caedus who started the second galactic empire.

maybe it gives a shot to your mind
We wont change anything on the bo3 system and flaming ;)
If you want to change the map pool or rules, join the player council, if you don't join it, its not our problem.

Comments disabled, feedback will only accepted via the player council.

How to join the council, you can read here http://www.esl.eu/eu/battlefront2/news/109681/Happy-New-Year-SWBF2-/
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